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Post by Rachy on Mar 18, 2018 11:25:22 GMT 10
So, Book 2! What are some theories and predictions? I’m hoping for a change in the relationship between Numair/Lindhall/Ozorne.
More of Varice’s motivations and why she is choosing Ozorne and Carthak.
The downfall of Preet.
Numair in Tortall but Numair in Tortall and meeting multiple familiar faces until he’s settled and discovered. |
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Post by devilinthedetails on Mar 19, 2018 22:39:13 GMT 10
I am interested to see Ozorne's rise to power, the falling out between Arram and Ozorne, Arram's flight from Carthak, and his arrival in Tortall. I have a feeling that the book will be packed with a lot of action and suspense and very tightly plotted.
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Post by Kypriotha on Mar 20, 2018 16:34:26 GMT 10
Has it been definitively confirmed if there will be 2 books or 3 books? I know there was talk of 3 books at some stage, which changes my prediction of timelines a bit, unless the third book is set entirely in Tortall.
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Post by devilinthedetails on Mar 20, 2018 22:36:36 GMT 10
Has it been definitively confirmed if there will be 2 books or 3 books? I know there was talk of 3 books at some stage, which changes my prediction of timelines a bit, unless the third book is set entirely in Tortall. I haven't seen anything definitive from Tammy saying whether it will be a two or three book series. I've just seen speculation on Goodreads and Amazon that it will be three books, which I think would probably make more sense; otherwise, there might be too much for Tammy to cover in just one more book given where the first one leaves off. Whether it's a two or three books series will definitely impact a lot about what happens in the next book as you say. |
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Post by Idleness on Mar 24, 2018 17:52:55 GMT 10
I thought it was two, but agree that three would make more sense. T&S was quite long, and it felt like a lot of careful setting of the scene for the break-down between Arram and Ozorne and then Arram's flight and finding a new place in Tortall, which would be a lot to pack into one book, and would probably make it seem quite frenetic when compared to the more ponderous pace of T&S.
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Post by Rachy on Mar 24, 2018 20:10:27 GMT 10
I haven’t found anything concrete for either way. I do keep thinking - though I admit it was a speed read - did it feel like a stand alone if you compare it to Tricksters Choice or Terrier? I felt like the plot wasn’t as clear/traditional in the structuring. I don’t know if I would go two or three. I feel like two could work, if we compare with TC/TQ, because I think a lot happens, but at the same time I feel like we have just finished AtFA, with the same four years in one book, and then there’s still the others to go (a hybrid of WWRLAM and LR for book 3). If it finishes with Numair on a boat to Tortall, I think that would be bad because I think the falling action will be necessary - I think that experience will shape the Numair we know, and you would lose some of the my best friend has a price for my head drama, but in my reading for book/s I did come across an old Dove theory where it would end with him as the crow to meet Daine. I’m not sure I would go that far, but it would pull a Carthak circle . |
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Post by aki on Mar 28, 2018 15:15:16 GMT 10
Rachy, Have to agree with you that the plot wasn't as traditional in this book as we usually see, but to be honest that was one of the things I really enjoyed about it. Surfing the net so far most site's seem to be saying three. If that's the case it makes sense to me that book 2 would focus on the lead up to Ozorne's rule and Arram's flight with book 3 focusing on Arram in Tortal. Of course only time will tell. I feel like if it really is only a two book series a lot of what was in T&S would have been caught down to fit more of Arram's older years. I really feel like Arram in Tortall would need to be it's own book leading up to how he becomes Numair and meets Alanna and the rest of the gang. But I guess there's no reason that would need to be it's own book, it's just what makes the most sense in my head  Here's what I REALLY want to see from Book 2: - Preet's reason for staying with Arram.
Preet came to the mortal world on purpose, specifically to see Arram. That's my theory anyway. I was certain of this after seeing her(his?) conversation with the Graveyard Hag. What is she here to do and is Enzi potentially in on it? In most of TP's books with animal sidekicks they end up doing something dangerous yet critical to the plot, so I feel like here coming with Enzi to the mortal realm isn't just a 'coincidence.' - Arram loses his healing magic
We know that Numair cannot heal people with magic, yet in this book we Arram actually sort of specializing in healing magic. So what happens between now and when he's known as Numair that causes him to lose the ability to cast healing spells? Personally I'm thinking it has something to do with the dice he got from the Graveyard Hag. Really it could be anything, but it feels like it would take a god-like power to affect a human's Gift in such a way as to prevent them from casting spells that they know and use. - The Killer's Identity
In regards to what was found in the river, why was she there and who did it? I'm really surprised we didn't find that out by the end of T&S and I'm hoping the pieces of that mystery come together in the next book. - Chioke's True Motive's
What was the reason for his bribe and what are his true plans?
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Post by Idleness on Mar 28, 2018 16:53:21 GMT 10
I do keep thinking - though I admit it was a speed read - did it feel like a stand alone if you compare it to Tricksters Choice or Terrier? I felt like the plot wasn’t as clear/traditional in the structuring. I don't think it does stand on its own like the other Tortall books do, though I probably should read it again to be certain in my opinion here. It doesn't have a really clear overarching goal it's working toward that say, Wild Magic does (Daine finds a place to belong), or First Test does (Kel proves herself and is allowed to stay), or TC does (Aly keeps the girls alive for a year), or Terrier does (Beka catches the Shadow Snake). I don't know... Arram goes to school and learns some stuff? Arram doesn't drive the plot like the heroines in the books above do; Daine leaves Snowsdale, she make friends along the way, deals with her fear of rejection, and in the process she finds that place to belong. Kel wants to be a knight, so she basically lumps her way in and makes them accept her. Aly is motivated to win Kyprioth's wager to get what she thinks she wants. Beka wants to be a Dog so she can protect the Lower City, so she works hard to catch the Shadow Snake. Arram is swept along by circumstance. He's not actively trying to achieve a defined goal in T&S; rather, he's just going to his classes and hanging out with Varice and Ozorne, and then gods start talking to him and some shifty things happen that seem to be centered around Ozorne and the imperial family. I think his overall arc will be a coming of age story where Arram discovers who he is, what he values, and what he's willing to sacrifice, and what the consequences are, of being true to that. But T&S is like act one of a longer serialised novel rather than a standalone. |
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Maybe once we'd have seen it during Smackdown!